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37. ‘Presence Matters’: Nakasone and Easterly on Ukraine, collaboration and midterm elections

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Dina Temple-Rastan: A small group of cyber warriors landed in Ukraine as part of a stealthy mission. She says it was less than three months before Russia would invade the country. The teams stayed for three months, and they just kept getting bigger, she says. Dina is back with highlights from a rare sit-down with two of the nation's leaders in cyber.

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