How Transparent Do You Want to Be About the Answer?

i was a finalist, way back in 20 16 for the presidency of a pretty significant, a religious liberty organization. And i felt like i had a pretty good chance. Who knows how far down the list i actually was. But even sometimes, when you're reaching for something and you don't get it, even though you know intellectually it's a reach, but once you sort of, in your mind, move yourself into that position, it can be pretty profoundly disappointinga to be honest,. It can be pretty disappointing.