Speaker 2
That was such a unique spin on it. And it was so iconic that it stood out and it like connected to all of us and still lives on. It's a really interesting point that Josh Newlin made in the BTS of the anime rock paper scissors to episode, which was exactly that. It's these tools are only iterative. So if you really want to use them to their full capacity of what they truly can do, you need to constantly be shaping them with new data and new information and new visuals that they haven't seen before.
Speaker 3
Yeah, of course,
Speaker 2
with enough machine learning, enough iterations, it'll start to spit at you. You know, like novelties quote, but I don't know if there's any like comparison for human ability with respect to that. I don't know.
Speaker 4
Well, that's what I keep saying to people because I think for all this stuff, whether it's background actors, main actors being replaced, not the conversation is even really about AI now, right? It's more about like, will VFX be good enough to replace Brad Pitt, right? Talking to the rock and they're not even there on set.
Speaker 2
I like how they're bad at VFX now. We'll talk about that in a second. Well, yeah,
Speaker 4
I mean, everyone's just getting looped together because no one really knows what's going on, but it's like, okay, so you're scared that they're going to like, photoscannous celebrity and like capture their essence and just keep putting out these projects that star these people who are maybe long dead. It's like, people get so scared about these little moments of quick advance attack. I mean, it always happens, but and then they extrapolate it to, oh, dude, now actors aren't going to be a thing. Now movies aren't going to be a thing. People aren't going to, you know, connect. It's like, no, at the end of the day, like humans want to see other humans being human. Like, if you told me, say this tech was already around and like, a studio comes out and they're like this new movie starring Robert Redford and Marilyn Monroe is coming out. I'd be like, who? Robert Redford? That's that old guy, right? It's like celebrity is also generational too. Yeah.
Speaker 5
So really. What's your representative essentially?
Speaker 4
Yeah. So I mean, then it goes to characters, right? So Indiana Jones is a character, I guess you could market young Harrison Ford role or a couple generations away from that one, you know, and they're still trying to market them. And we saw how kind of how that went. So it shows me like, people don't really care. Like they want people from their generation. They want the celebrity that they think is cool. Like Disney, you can clone Harrison Ford. All you want or I want. And
Speaker 3
they want they want their own IP too. It's like, whether it's a live horse or a CG horse, if it's dead and you keep beating it, no one's going to care. It's like Star Wars, people grew up on that. It was so exciting at the time and it spoke to that generation. That has continued on. It's I mean, I'm not interested in it personally anymore. I mean, I never really was, but like that's what I'm talking about is like it had its moment and it died out and now it's time for a new idea or a new IP that speaks to this generation. And whatever it is, it has to happen organically. Have you seen
Speaker 5
how like prolific, just social
Speaker 2
media celebrities have become? I mean, of course you have like everyone. That is part of this. There was a guy in New York City the other day that like started a riot over a PlayStation giveaway.
Speaker 5
Yeah. Yeah. You didn't hear about this? No. Yeah, it's crazy. Yeah, he's being
Speaker 1
streamers. Like I'm going to do a place to see it. And then it was like a riot.
Speaker 2
Yeah, there's literally a riot there. The city of New York is literally charging it with inciting a riot miss miss Bellany levels of.
Speaker 5
Yeah. What's what
Speaker 3
sparked it? Was it he just didn't show up or a PlayStation giveaway? Oh, he was there giving him away and then everyone's fighting for him. A.
Speaker 2
A. One PlayStation. Yeah. A PlayStation giveaway. Who wants it? Yeah.
Speaker 1
No, I mean, really wild. I mean,
Speaker 2
it's not it's not about that. My point is about the specifics of that circumstance. My point is that that is exactly the same reaction that people are having towards this person as they had to the Beatles in 1965. Like it's it's the same level of hysteria because. Yeah, but the
Speaker 1
Beatles had security. Right.
Speaker 7
Right. Exactly.
Speaker 2
Yeah. But it's that's more like broken down and localized now. And I don't know if that's necessarily a bad thing because it means the propaganda machines and everything else can't quite do the same type of work they used to do. But they do even more sinisterly because
Speaker 4
they're all wrapped up
Speaker 2
in a bubble bubble. Right. That's that's the other side of it too is you can wrap people up
Speaker 4
the rattle. They're silent, but deadly, bro.
Speaker 2
Like it's all silent, but deadly. Dude, who
Speaker 5
smells delted though. Nick, you know what I'm saying?
Speaker 4
No, just like these sensational these like like the celebrity is now it's less widespread. It's less you know, it's more it's more localized. Localize. Yeah, honestly, to who you are and what you like. And you know, I mean, whatever everyone knows we're all in our own bubbles and everyone's in the bubble.