Is Donald Trump a Showman?

I was trying to leave it open to the possibility that what happens to Trump is that the base gets too far to the right of him, which you've started to see in some ways. But I would agree with you that he is, there is, Ron DeSantis and Mike Pence and these, these other guys, they are not going to be able to replicate what Trump did. It's, it's, there's no replicating what, what Trump does because we were just saying, he's such a showman. He is. The other question is how long he can, he kind of holds, holds their attention.