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356 - UNLOCKED - Things Fell Apart: A Conversation with Jon Ronson

The Fifth Column

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The Importance of Listening to Others

I think people have been kind of deranged by this in a way. I don't remember this level of derangement, maybe in the mid 2000s or something. It's having a very big impact on their personal lives. How did we get here? And I wanted to make a show that wouldn't become a part of the culture war.

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