meditation is a big part of it, but that's available to us really any time that we choose to do it. I heard an interview the other day, and i can't remember the woman's name, but it was on a podcast called on bean. And she doesn't really advocate meditation so much. She's much more an advocate of, ha, you can, at any minute just start paying attention to what's going on around you. So i'm going to say something that maybe i'll later regret, but i kind of disagree. You can drop in to the present moment. Anybody can. But it's really hard to do if you don't have this practice. It

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