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This fall, whether you're traveling on business or off on a family road trip, Best Western Hotels and Resorts has you covered. With over 2,400 locations throughout the US and Canada, you're sure to find the right hotel that meets your traveling needs. This week's guest is Alie Ward, perhaps the most beloved in her field. She got her BS in botany from SUNY Environmental Science and Forestry with a master's and a PhD in botany at the University of Wisconsin.

An instant classic. You’ll listen on repeat as world-renowned author, botanist, Indigenous ecology professor and bryologist Dr. Robin Wall Kimmerer talks about her passion for moss. Cozy up for the most beautifully doled-out information about hidden worlds, overlooked mysteries, botanical drama, forests in miniature, Native peoples’ uses for moss and philosophies about science and ecology. Dr. Kimmerer, author of “Gathering Moss” and “Braiding Sweetgrass,” will change the way you see mosses forever, will inspire you to wear a loupe on a rope, and will soothe your soul with her beautiful voice and prose. Also bathmats, lawns and smoothies made of moss? We discuss.

Follow Dr. Kimmerer at facebook.com/braidingsweetgrass

Look for her books at independent bookstores or wherever books are sold (including Amazon): “Braiding Sweetgrass” and “Gathering Moss”

Donations went to the ESF’s Center for Native Peoples and the Environment and American Indian Science and Engineering Society (AISES)

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Sound editing by Jarrett Sleeper of MindJam Media & Steven Ray Morris

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