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60 seconds OR She dies | A conversation with a Hostage Negotiator | The Basement w- Tim Ross #044

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The Importance of Quality Time

"My heart was the fertile soil and you sow some of the seeds," he says. "I'm not a one and done guy for anything I do, like I'm a lifer on therapy and counseling." He adds that it's just like working out: You don't go to the gym and work out and go, okay, I'm in shape. Not coming back to the gym Yeah. Exactly!"

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