Jordan: I think it kind of goes to the the you know the smaller details and You know just bigger picture things like I was mentioning before. It's Oftentimes not even mind blowing stuff. It's just putting focus on Details that help you communicate And have to do less UI work. This episode is brought to you in part by Universal Mind a digital design and consulting company based in Denver, Colorado Whether you started as a digital company or not, we're all digital now.