"It's really hard to find people who are going to tell you, tell you the bad news," he says. "Having that person right there who's not afraid to do that and not afraid to call me on my own stuff when I'm not doing the right thing" He adds: "If no one's telling me, I'm not fixing it."
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Command Sergeant Major JoAnn Naumann shares her powerful story of coming to the realization that something wasn't right internally and if she wanted to lead others, she needed to begin with herself. Joe and JoAnn discuss stigmas with asking for help, the importance of habits and rituals, and setting professional boundaries.