How Will Pragmatic Alliances Work in Practice?

CSIS Director Daniel Rogers steps out of the shadows. 

For the first time in the history of CSIS, Canada’s top spy holds a press conference. His talking points included youth radicalization, Arctic security, and data sovereignty. But why is he talking now?   

This episode uses generative AI for the following purposes: several instances of voice cloning of host Jesse Brown to use "they" and "them" pronouns when referring to Kristyn Wong-Tam

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Host: Jesse Brown

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This episode uses generative AI for the following purposes: To ensure correct pronoun usage when discussing nonbinary Ontario MPP Kristyn Wong-Tam, a voice-cloned version of host Jesse Brown using they/them pronouns has been included in some instances of Jesse's Duly Noted story.

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