The Importance of Passion

I don't think it's helpful to look at these situations as one side is all good and one side is bad. And that means that we ought to be investigating them very thoroughly from many different perspectives. So in addition to our chat last week, I was just on the Eastern Borders podcast with my friend, work correspondent, Kristops Anderson, who I'll start crying here in a minute. He got car bombed by the Wagner group about six months ago, like my buddy got fucking car bombed. But yeah, I love it. I love the passion. We need to be having these conversations because it is high stakes.