Why Is It So Hard to Get People to Do This?

Disrupting the global food system is one of the most pressing issues of our lifetimes—and it’s no small lift. Today, we welcome two powerhouses working to help the world shift to a kinder, plant-based food system. David Meyer and Galina Hale serve as the CEO and Chief Research Officer, respectively, of Food System Innovations (FSI). They join us this week to discuss the nonprofit’s mission to transform the food system, diving into, among other things, the enormous funding disparities between research beneficial to animal ag and that geared toward alternative proteins. They also discuss the public perception of “processed” plant-based foods and the differences in labeling requirements for animal-based and plant-based foods. Plus, they share details of some projects FSI is currently spearheading.

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David Meyer is an executive with deep experience at the nexus of the nonprofit and for-profit sectors and a strong interest in environmental sustainability, animal welfare, and working to find sustainable solutions that benefit a diverse set of stakeholders. He is co-founder and CEO ofFood System Innovations and Humane America Animal Foundation. He is also a trustee for the Food System Research Fund. He was the interim Executive Director and is a strategic advisor to the Plant Based Foods Association, and advises the Good Food Institute, the Plant Based World Conference and Expo, the Material Innovation Initiative, Pivot Food Investment, and many other nonprofits and for-profits in the space.

Galina Hale  is a Professor of Economics at UC Santa Cruz and the co-founder and Chief Research Officer of Food System Innovations. She served as a Research Advisor at the Federal Reserve Bank of San Francisco, and as an assistant professor in the economics department of Yale University.  Galina is a director of the CEBRA’s IFM program and a co-director of the UCSC Center for Analytical Finance (CAFIN).   Galina has been recently working on ways economists can inform policymakers on how to make the food system more sustainable. She serves on editorial boards of a number of Economics journals and on multiple boards and committees in animal welfare and animal agriculture space.

“People are bombarded with pro-animal food messaging all day.” – Galina Hale

“It’s hard for people to admit that they’re part of the problem.” – David Meyer

Highlights for Episode 686: 

• Food Systems Innovations (FSI) and how it’s working to transform present-day food systems
• Funding disparities between research within the meat industry versus research geared toward replacing animal agriculture
• Why ironing out funding issues is crucial to bringing alternative meat research to universities 
• How the Food System Research Fund works
• How people’s concerns regarding climate change impact research funding 
• How FSI approaches the impact eggs and poultry have on the climate
• How David and Galina are encouraging small NGOs worldwide to become involved in plant-based meat research
• Some of the ways they are trying to fast-track the educational, professional, and operational abilities of people in the animal rights movement
• Future possibilities for making meat replacement products taste authentic and appetizing
• Why there is a perception that plant-based meat substitutes are “processed” rather than natural
• David and Galina’s thoughts on making consumer messaging more effective when encouraging people to adopt plant-based diets

Resources:

• Alone and Exploited, Migrant Children Work Brutal Jobs Across the U.S.
• Regenesis: Feeding the World Without Devouring the Planet by George Monbiot
• Braiding Sweetgrass by Robin Wall Kimmerer

Connect with David Meyer and Galina Hale:

• Food System Innovations Website
• Humane America Animal Foundation Website
• Adopt-a-Pet.com Website
• Galina Hale’s Website
• David Saves Pets on Twitter
• Galina Hale on Twitter

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