What's Going on Tonight?

We're on episode 20, so 20 episodes of liminal frames. The the anniversary is some time in January I think right. You know for sure this is a unprecedented time you know like ever since the New York Times articles and that kind of thing. One of the things we want to talk about tonight is the difference between the conversation that experiences are having around these topics rather than what's happening in the public conversation or for the nuts and bolts crowd the sort of traditional ufologists. That'll be some interesting dialogue for us to get into tonight.