We overlapped briefly at the same church 10th Presbyterian church and Center City Philadelphia when I was president of fire foundation for individual rights and education. And you were at pen. We might have liked just brushed into each other at that point but we we've met a couple of times. The way I ended up doing bankruptcy is in my first year of law school. It's been to bankruptcy in bankruptcy for reasons completely other than my faith. So do not think of that because you're a Christian law student that there's a certain specific career path for you.

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