Is it still possible that we can shape a shift to a multi polar world? Or is it doomed to be a resource grab power struggle after growth stops? It's going to be both. And I'm looking at it in a very dispassionate way, right? Like I've come to understand that it's not just purely about greed. We are some fundamental sort of needs, tiring economic growth, which have to do with social welfare system,. But in order to be reinvented, we have to reinvent the financial system, the macroeconomic sort of system. We have to go into really, really difficult and complex topics. You would actually lose humanity on our way to decarbonization
On this episode, environmental peacemaker and mediator Olivia Lazard joins Nate to unpack the relationship between mineral deposits, conflict-vulnerable zones, and high biodiversity areas to create interlocking risks to geopolitical and climate stability. Much like Olivia’s research, this conversation covers a wide variety of topics and is jam-packed with information. Will we have to plunder the planet in order to save it? Will we be able to transition to a multi-polar world order somewhat peacefully? And what can we learn from mediators and peacemakers, like Olivia, as we move into a more materially constrained future - where the whole pie is smaller?
About Olivia Lazard:
Olivia is an environmental peacemaking and mediation practitioner as well as a researcher and a fellow at Carnegie Europe. Her research focuses on the geopolitics of climate, the transition ushered by climate change, and the risks of conflict and fragility associated with climate change and environmental collapse. She has over twelve years of experience in the peacemaking sector at field and policy levels. In her fieldwork, her focus was to understand how globalization and the international political economy shaped patterns of violence and vulnerability patterns as well as formed new types of conflict systems that our international governance architecture has difficulty tackling with agility.
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