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The Ringer: Bill Simmons
How I Built This with Guy Raz
The Catalyst
Jacko: I was always like one of the top three podcasts, but there really weren't a lot of podcasts. Seth Meyers and I were emailing about the Steelers or something. He's like, yeah, come on anytime you want. So I could feel like momentum with it. But in the midst of all this, tension begins to build between you and certain managers or editors.
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