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484 David Vanderveen - C0-founder XS Energy Drink

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The Science and the Art of Distilling Wines

"It's a blend of that science and the art t i like to think they're all full of shit," he says. "You can't have spoiled you've got to make sure that h of the wine works" He also started an energy drink company, which was very successful for a long time. The dot com boom happened; Am ended up starting a fairly large dotcom company.

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