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Matt Wertz: A Dad in Utero

Dadville with Dave Barnes and Jon McLaughlin

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The Importance of Empathy in Relationships

"I'm actually pretty excited about that. It kind of feels like I mean, it is while it is terrifying to think like, I am like, programming a human," he says. "It's this most important, you know, like your top two relationship on this earth, like the second one's coming."

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