We are thrilled to have the co-founder and creative director of The Bible Project, Tim Mackie, on the show today. Brook and Tim dive into some big questions like what it looks like to be faithful to Jesus in our time, where we need to put our attention, and how some desires will lead us to life and others will not.

We get to listen in as Tim shares some fun inside stories of finding Jesus through skateboarding and what life in the Mackie house looks like now. He shares how he looks for opportunities in his parenting to teach big concepts to his children, even while building with Legos. Brook and Tim also unpack the creative and in-depth process behind making each Bible Project video. Tim imparts some practical wisdom about teaching our children the ability to discern that there is a story behind every voice that’s trying to grab our attention. And finally, Brook and Tim discuss chasing desires and how sometimes denying what we really want is the way to get what we really need.