i can't help but wonder whether grove would have made a different decision to the one that otolini ended up making, which was, like, it's our way or the highway. I think this is something that i wrote about at the very beginning of stekery, and i think it comes to bear on this entire discussion. Lmake our unpack every everything that yu dis at there ecat. There 're so many interesting points. It raises really interesting point. The credit grove should get for grasping the concept and then acting on it. In with the salaron processor, yes, 100 %.