In this episode, Amanda Goetz sits down with Eve Rodsky—the New York Times bestselling author of Fair Play and Find Your Unicorn Space—to unpack one of the most important (and under-discussed) topics for ambitious women today: the invisible labor that keeps households running and the systems needed to make ambition sustainable.

In a world where the lines between home, work, and personal ambition are constantly blurred, understanding the dynamics of domestic labor has never been more vital.

Eve gets real about:

💭 The unseen emotional labor women carry every day—and why it drains ambition

💡 How to redefine success through systems, boundaries, and honest conversations

🔥 Why “having it all” isn’t the goal—and what fulfillment actually looks like

🦄 The power of “unicorn space” and how to carve out time for joy and creativity

❤️ How to reset relationship dynamics using the Fair Play Framework

Let’s dive into what happens when ambition collides with expectation—and how to tactfully rewrite those rules for yourself.

From invisible labor to emotional burnout, from systems thinking to radical self-care, this episode explores how women can reclaim their time, redefine ambition on their own terms, and build lives rooted in equity, purpose, and joy.

00:00 Intro

02:08 Defining modern ambition

03:41 The blueberry story that nearly ended a marriage

08:09 Advice for young women who are dating and are on the fence about kids

11:42 The importance of “unicorn space”

21:37 Navigating relationships and “fair play”

25:15 The oppressive nature of “finding time”

26:35 Boundaries and systems for balance

29:18 The role of “fair play” in relationships

30:39 The practice of setting boundaries

36:30 Radical generosity and protecting your time

38:46 Seasons of life and self-care

GUEST LINKS

Eve Rodsky: https://www.instagram.com/everodsky

Read Fair Play: https://bookshop.org/a/116169/9780525541943 Read Find Your Unicorn Space: https://bookshop.org/a/116169/9780593328033

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