"I wouldn't be where I have a vice-voter journey had I not had my experiences as a Christian," she says. "So much new age spirituality is just like repackaged Christianity in a way, right? Same moralism or, you know, like even puritanical, misogynistic beliefs." She adds that it's an interesting kind of puzzle too of thinking back to where have I made meaning out of something that was lucky or unlucky that there was no meaning and that's part of the randomness of the universe.

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