Zachary: I will continue to grandstand for founders, but this founder in particular, I have a lot of respect for him having the either self awareness or at least awareness to step back and say, hey, even though I could keep doing this, perhaps I'm not the right person to do so. Nikita: We don't often talk about the fact that the founder who starts the company and builds the company may not be the best person to go from IPO to 20 years afterwards. Zachary: How many of your friends were bag holders of Peloton stock? I didn't hear from many. Half my group chats are down like six figures. They were just mindlessly buying

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