Even as a child, i would tell my mam that i was going to have 12 children. At one point, after you graduate at high school, you considered becoming a kindergarten teacher. Both your parents really encouraged you to be this kindergarten teacher. How did they respond to you wanting to be an artist? Well, my mam was the one who was a supporting my ability to go to college. She actually a took a loan off of her car that she owned outright for me to go ahead and move to san francisco.