Last month, Gethard talked with a guy whose wife was in labor. Last week, Gethard talked to that wife, now a new mom to a squishy squid. This week, Gethard talks to that squishy squid’s grandmother. It’s a frank and vulnerable conversation about generational trauma, cycles of abuse, and working hard to build a better life for your family. And of course we get to hear about the joy that comes with being a new grandparent. It’s a beautiful call, and kind of a miracle that it happened at all.

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