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ABOUT THIS CONVERSATION: What if the mineral you’ve been told to fear is actually the one you need most?

This conversation with Morley Robbins flips the script on everything you thought you knew about minerals. Yes, magnesium is essential, but according to Morley, copper might just be the missing key to your health.

We explored how copper fuels energy production at the cellular level, not the quick fix kind, but real mitochondrial energy that supports brain function, immune resilience, and overall vitality. The key? Ceruloplasmin, what Morley calls the "master antioxidant," the enzyme that keeps oxidative stress and iron overload in check.

"Anemia is a myth," he said. Most people aren’t low in iron, they’re low in bioavailable copper, which means iron can’t be used properly. The result? Fatigue, inflammation, and accelerated aging.

We also looked at how modern farming has stripped copper from our soil, leaving even the best diets lacking. And without enough vitamin A, your body can’t activate the copper it does have.

There’s more, Rubisco, mitochondria, retinol, cancer risk, and the strange comfort people find in broken medical narratives. As Morley puts it, "Pursue the truth, especially the ones medicine forgot."

Feeling tired, foggy, or stuck with vague diagnoses? Tune in.Understanding copper could change how you see health, and yourself.Doc x

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