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#064 The Synthesis of Media and Ecommerce with Kevin Espiritu of Epic Gardening

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How to Be the Biggest Creator in the Space at the Time

"I just never advanced the conversation with anyone else. The reputation is that strong." "With these creators, they don't quite honestly give a fuck sometimes. They're like, pretty good," he says of other YouTube and social media stars. 'If I wasn't doing this, I might help them do this' He's not a big bar still fan but what they did, you know, business wise is interesting. But yeah, like the aggregate was dramatically the biggest.

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