I was exploring at an offline computer from appearance, which didn't have a lot of like things on it. At some point I got internet that kind of browsed around to see how these websites really look like. And yeah, that's how I got into PHP and did some website stuff. Did some very basic websites like guest books and these kind of things with PHP but nothing, nothing really big. Then after mandatory school year series was filmed, I started an apprenticeship at Roche. If you've done any PCR tests lately, you probably have done that on an instrument of them. There I was in a team where we did hardware simulation testing for softwarewhich is running on these instruments.