Robert Cheek and Scott Jurek at the Vegan Bodybuilding Festival

Robert cheek is a vegan bodybuilder. He's an author of a book vegan bodybuilding and fitness. So he has a lot to say and we've been trying to set up some sort of like another interview for a long time. And the other big name I was thinking of was Scott Jurek who I've also talked to him before, but I've had a couple opportunities recently to do it again through some some promotions he's doing.