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In this episode of Christopher Lochhead: Follow Your Different, we are treated to a rare dialogue with John Donovan, renowned technology executive and board member, whose career has spanned transformative eras at AT&T and who continues to shape the strategies of some of the world’s biggest companies.

This conversation moves from leadership lessons around innovation and timing, through the current AI revolution and its economic implications, to personal reinvention in the face of relentless technological change.

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Leading through Technology and Perfect Timing

John Donovan shares candid insights about what it truly takes to lead technology for corporations at massive scale. He highlights that while choosing the right technology is challenging, selecting the right time to invest and deploy is even more crucial.

Drawing from his stewardship of AT&T during pivotal events, including the company’s exclusive deal with Apple for the first iPhone, Donovan explains the delicate balance between being too early, which leads to overspending, and being too late, which risks losing market leadership. He stresses the necessity of a structured process and assembling trusted teams to ensure efficient and impactful execution. This approach, he maintains, applies as much to revolutionary events of the past like the smartphone era as it does to today’s accelerating world of artificial intelligence.

The New Industrial Revolution: AI’s Economic and Organizational Impact

A major theme of the conversation revolves around the unprecedented buildout of infrastructure and investment occurring in AI. Donovan sees AI as the dawn of a new industrial age: one that, for the first time, is manufacturing intelligence itself. He explains that the billions being spent on infrastructure, real estate, and hardware underpin a transformation with no real historical precedent.

With AI attributed to fueling a significant portion of current GDP growth, Donovan believes that while the hype is justified, it’s still early days. Like the early years of the iPhone, when supporting infrastructure lagged behind exponential demand, today’s rapid investment in AI is setting the groundwork for productivity and business model innovation across industries.

The conversation touches on how traditional organizational roles and entire sectors are preparing for disruption; category leaders are poised to emerge quickly, and those companies that cannot adapt may not survive.

Reinventing Leadership and the Rise of the Creator Capitalist

Donovan offers a personal take on how the pace of change is shifting what it takes to be a successful executive. He predicts that in the near future, the average age of top industry CEOs will drop significantly, as the new environment favors younger leaders who are native to emerging technologies. Experience, he suggests, is being surpassed in value by competency and the capacity to continually self-educate and reinvent oneself.

Expanding on the evolution of work itself, Donovan aligns with Christopher’s view that we are moving beyond the traditional “knowledge worker” into an era where net new knowledge creation and leveraging AI to build new value will define career success. This creator-driven approach requires not just technical skill, but also imagination and the courage to challenge existing processes.

As AI increasingly automates repetitive and procedural tasks, human creativity in integrating and orchestrating these new tools will become the key differentiator across all fields.

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Bio

Retired Chief Executive Officer of AT&T Communications, LLC, a wholly-owned subsidiary of AT&T Inc. John Donovan served as CEO from August 2017 until his retirement in October 2019.

He was Chief Strategy Officer and Group President of AT&T Technology and Operations from January 2012 through August 2017, and Chief Technology Officer of AT&T Inc. from April 2008 through January 2012.

He has served on the board of directors of Palo Alto Networks, Inc. since 2012 and was a member of the President’s National Security Telecommunications Advisory Committee from 2019 to 2023.

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