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The New Laws of Robotics - Dr. Karl Friston, Cognitive Neuroscientist
The DemystifySci Podcast
Is There a Limit to What Mathematics Can Really Define?
Love is cathax of attached in certain agents and certain sentient creatures. Is there a limit to what mathematics can really describe? We did an episode for one of our other channels called Math is Not a Language. There are branches of maths that actually address that aspect, that syntax,. That category theory for example.
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Speaker 1
And it's
Speaker 2
very difficult to move love around, right? Like to apply motion to a concept is in some sense of physical impossibility. Like you can't just put love in a box and send it to the other side of the world
Speaker 1
necessarily. Yes, it is cathax of attached in certain agents and certain sentient creatures, absolutely. And this is actually a question that we've talked about before, which is,
Speaker 2
is there a limit to what mathematics can really describe? Because if you're talking about material objects that have some kind of coordinate location, I'm totally on board with the idea that math can describe that. But love? The taste of coffee, the taste of a good cup of tea, is that beyond the scope of mathematics? No,
Speaker 1
I notice you're getting straight into the heart bubbles. We all mess
Speaker 2
around here. We actually, we did an episode for one of our other channels a while ago called Math is Not a Language. And we really upset a lot of people because there's a huge cleavage there where there's a significant group of people who really firmly believe that math is a language and that you can express things within it with no necessity for any other syntactic context. We basically made the argument that math is just quantitative adverbs and that you can't really string a sentence together with quantitative adverbs. You have to bring in other parts of speech. So math requires a language to accompany it in order to interpret the variables and state the assumptions and so forth like that. But yeah, it's something we think a lot about.
Speaker 1
So very good. I always say that maths is my favourite language but stated like that but I think that's a very good point. But the comeback would be that there are branches of maths that actually address that aspect, that syntax, that category theory for example. So new wave maths that people are preoccupied by addressing exactly head-on what it is to have isomorphism or things that are converted in terms of the relationships, the thing that gives language, its syntax and it's not an expert in that but I can just imagine somebody category theory going very upset if you try to correct
Speaker 2
things.
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