Within realism itself, there are a bunch of different divisions. The main division has been between those who think of themselves as naturalists and those who don't. And you're going to be in the moral realism camp there, just so we can get in themoral realism camp. But morality is not really like the sciences. No matter how much scientific investigation we do, we're not going to be able to discover what's right and wrong by reference to that.

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