I think that brains work better when you expose them to unexpected stimuli. I think that scientific creativity is enriched by playing with ideas and concepts. And so we have team meetings where I really probe them for people to get into those spaces. If you don't speak Apple, never have an opportunity to understand whether that idea may go through. So it's something I always push, whether it is with people are my mentors or I'm organizing it with experts. We're here to basically push the limit. So please do not feel embarrassed.

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