Is There a Real Debate About Beauty?

I think it's an odd feature about the way human beings work, that we don't know if it's okay to be interested in them. I mean you talk about recognizing the aesthetic beauty of the wall of concrete. That's something which is not easy for a lot of people but with a certain kind of attention is possible to make a change in one's life and one's perceptions. It seems to me that part of what you're doing is trying to move people into a direction where they are prepared to change. And then there are other things which we simply had never really looked at and we'd had bad associations around. You know maybe someone had told us, oh concrete, that's