How to Lose Control of Your Life

"I've just never, I don't really have any desire to do any drugs. It seems like it's like not for me," she says. "When you sit with a really strong medicine, whether it's five MEO, a strong psilocybin, ceremony, ayahuasca, Ibogaine, whatever, you don't get to control any part of any of that." She doesn't use alcohol anymore and is anti-alcohol as time goes on.