"I would have no problem if you cried," he says. "Crying makes me uncomfortable." He's not actively opposed to crying, but it wouldn't make him unamenable or uncomfotable. The episode airs at 9 p.m. ET/PT on Thursday and 10 a.m. ET Friday in the UK. For more episodes of This Is Life with Lisa Ling click here.

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