I agree with Julia that things are heating up and that in this movement and that kind of like state response as well will then trigger responses from activists. I'm not saying this can trigger it towards sabotage or anything else, but there will happen. There has to be a change at that point. It's possible we've passed on those tipping points already. Like the uncertainty around them is so large. We're playing Russian roulette with the planet. Our major ice sheets could already be fucked and we won't, you know, we just don't know that yet.

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