Welcome to a new episode of Business Lunch with your host, Roland Frasier, featuring guests John and Maria Assaraf. Today, we explore the shift from knowledge-based to wisdom-based roles in the workplace, emphasizing the growing appreciation for experience in a tech-heavy environment. We'll discuss the dynamics of younger bosses leading more experienced employees and share strategies for fostering a culture of mutual learning and mentorship across generations.
Highlights:
"It is truly amazing what can happen when you step out of the day-to-day and spend just a little bit of time surrounded by other powerful business owners."
"Physiologically, 60 may be the new 40, but when it comes to power in the modern workplace, 30 is the new 50."
"We need actual wisdom around so the pendulum in some organizations is shifting back."
"We're equals in learning, and we're equals in getting things done."
Timestamps:
00:00 - Introduction
02:38 - Wisdom Work vs. Knowledge Work
06:50 - Tech and Experience in the Workplace
12:52 - Formalizing Mentorship Programs
18:52 - Implementing Mentorship Programs
25:38 - Hiring and Ageism
31:22 - Actionable Steps for the Audience
33:53 - Conclusion
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