Episode 76: David Kessler
The AAMFT Podcast
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How Is Kubler-Ross?
David Frum met Kubler-Ross after she suffered a major stroke and was near the end of her life. She told him, "I just want to smell to see if you're a phony baloney" He said he didn't want to be too much or be infringing on her time but realized this is a woman who was used to making things happen.
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