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Ep. 235 - Steven Zapata

The Collective Podcast

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Meditation

"I've tried it so many times and I've just given up on the concept because my mind is full on monkey brain, like crazy," he says of meditation. "My father's death put me on a road of reanalyzing what I was doing with my favorite thing in life - making art" He adds: "Once drawing had handled it for me, when I went back to sitting after that, then I was having my first positive experiences ever."

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