
166: Ambient Struggles (feat. May-Li Khoe & Andy Matuschak)
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Exploring the Power of Ambient Struggle
In this chapter, the speakers discuss their experience at the XOXO festival and how it influenced their decision to try something different with their lives. They reflect on stories of struggle and depression shared at the festival, finding them inspirational. The conversation also delves into their past experiences working at Apple and their desire to create light and fun interactive projects.
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