Hyperscalers' Sources of Payment and Capital Allocation

Welcome back to the Alt Goes Mainstream podcast.

Today’s episode dives into digital infrastructure and how it powers the growth of artificial intelligence and other major trends in digitalization and electrification.

We sat down in Blue Owl’s NYC office with Matt A’Hearn, an asset management entrepreneur and executive at the firm.

Matt is a Senior Managing Direct at Blue Owl and Head of Digital Infrastructure. He’s responsible for leading the overall management of Digital Infrastructure, including strategy, investments, and portfolio management.

Prior to joining Blue Owl, Matt was the Managing Partner and a Founder of IPI Partners, the predecessor firm to Blue Owl Digital Infrastructure. IPI was acquired by Blue Owl in 2024.

Prior to founding IPI, Matt led the global investment banking practice in communications infrastructure at Moelis & Company.

Matt and I had a fascinating and thought-provoking discussion about the future of digital infrastructure. We covered:

• The how and the why of digital infrastructure.
• Investing in data centers.
• The evolution of digital infrastructure.
• How to best partner with and serve the need of hyperscalers.
• The importance of power generation for AI. 
• How there are different ways to approach gaining exposure to AI as an investment theme.

Thanks Matt for coming on the show to share your wisdom and expertise in private markets and digital infrastructure.

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Show Notes
00:00 Our Sponsor, Ultimus

01:57 Welcome to the Alt Goes Mainstream Podcast

02:05 Guest Introduction: Matt A’Hearn

03:36 Evolution of Digital Infrastructure

04:02 Founding IPI Partners

04:15 Digital Infrastructure and AI

05:35 Early Challenges in Data Center Investing

06:13 Cloud Growth and Hyperscale Companies

07:05 Partnerships with Hyperscalers

08:07 Financing Hyperscalers

10:14 AI and Cloud: A Generational Opportunity

11:51 Supply and Demand Dynamics in AI

13:21 Power and Infrastructure Challenges

14:55 Site Selection and Power Considerations

17:53 Scale and Capital Requirements

22:32 Data Center Capacity Needs

23:35 Investment Opportunities in Digital Infrastructure

24:21 Blue Owl's Capital Strategy

26:25 The Blue Owl Transaction

26:35 Capital Needs in the Industry

26:58 Feedback from Hyperscalers

27:18 Joining Blue Owl

27:51 Founding IPI

28:50 Building the Firm

30:38 Differentiating IPI

31:36 Early AI Insights

32:26 AI and Cloud Growth

34:41 Investment Opportunities in Digital Infrastructure

35:27 Risk-Adjusted Investment Strategies

36:39 Underwriting Digital Infrastructure

38:22 Capital Allocation in Tech Companies

39:17 Meta and Data Center Development

40:41 Alternative Asset Management in Tech

41:45 Merging Investment Cultures

43:19 Challenges and Opportunities

43:53 Wealth Channel Expansion

45:51 Evergreen Structures and Long-Term Investments

50:50 Future of Digital Infrastructure

Editing and post-production work for this episode was provided by The Podcast Consultant.