The Evolution and Creation of Grammograms

1052. What do “CDB” and “U11 2” have in common? They’re both examples of gramograms! 

This week, I chat with writer Rob Meyerson and New Yorker cartoonist Dan Misdea about their book "AB@C," a fun collection of gramograms—letters, numbers, and symbols that form words when read aloud. We look at the history of this quirky wordplay and the artistic process behind the book’s illustrations.

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