It's funny once you go past a certain number I won't say the number but when I watch like families like 13 kids and counting Then you have the same criticisms about them that you have with people with one kid Because you're like that's selfish Like like this is grotesque like it's raw like we have a number And it's good to know that we have aNumber. Yeah, so it was Capitalism this is a real lava lamp do be freshman year at NYU kind of conversation Totally and I'm loving it because I didn't get to have those conversations. It's interesting to just note that also like we are buying into a thing that is pretty If not irrelevant, it's not relevant

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