"I'm genuinely confused by this, right? Because if you think about the intellectual moves made in the 80s and 90s, there was a turn towards a sort of cosmopolitanism," he says. "We've got backwards from the 1.0 vision or understanding of diversity." He adds that it's not just a matter of us going too far in the right direction but being fundamentally opposed to the kind of world in which I want to live".

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