"We need to let go of the idea of command and control being the only effective or meaningful way for leaders to show up," she says. "I think that it's important for us to train scientists to think of themselves as leaders both in science and society earlier on" In biological sciences, there's a lot more helpful things someone can do right away, like working in the lab,. All kinds of stuff like that. And then they're providing benefit for the lab instead of just taking resources.

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