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Episode 55 | Nicholson Baker

Dialogues: The David Zwirner Podcast

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The Importance of Grief

"Grief is one of grief like love, right? I mean, you know, grief grief will make you so vulnerable. Like it's about not having skin," she says. "We drape ourselves in grievance, I think too, as a skin to cover that grief." In the midst of utter moral squalor, kindness and just humanly recognizable feeling can still be possible, he adds. 'There are many, many people who retain their sense of being human'

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