The idea of separating the who you are from the what you do was a pivotal moment for me. I stopped listening right then and didn't pick the podcast up again for years because I could not answer that question. But when I finally started talking with other people, it's also this sort of very open-ended question. And today I kind of think of the question almost like a co-op, right? So a question that leads to contemplation, but there is no answer.

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