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S2E13: Tim Brighouse and Mick Waters on 45 years of schools reform, and moving into an age of hope

Rethinking Education

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The Institute of Education

I don't think any secretaries of state deployed the expertise in the Institute of Education to the extent that they could. And I do think in education, we lose a lot by not having a nice and more recently sage, which in the health profession gives a kind of independent regular view on what is or isn't the case. Gibbs was one of the one of the few people who didn't give you an interview, did he? He was he was the minister at the time. So but I'm interested to hear about what you see as his legacy. It's like it's taking control of a situation. We shouldn't leave that up to the whims of the preferences of teachers because the rights

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